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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Squozen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:40 am

Flopper wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:43 pm
Overkill? YES, it is not connected to the internet! You could have admin with no password and it would not matter!?!?!
Unless a PC on your network got infected with ransomware that connected to your NAS and infected every file. I've seen it happen. Why take the risk to avoid 5 minutes of configuration?

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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Flopper » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:10 pm

Squozen wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:40 am
Flopper wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:43 pm
Overkill? YES, it is not connected to the internet! You could have admin with no password and it would not matter!?!?!
Unless a PC on your network got infected with ransomware that connected to your NAS and infected every file. I've seen it happen. Why take the risk to avoid 5 minutes of configuration?
If you really want to get paranoid ... this is a home config, so, beside a specific hack to a PC and then using a mapped drive, etc... etc ...
And I did not mean there should not be a password, I wrote that comment according the OPs initial statement: not exposed to the Internet.

While you are at it, make sure the house is burglar free, someone could just come and steal the NAS, or, the house burns down, or, an airplane falls out of the sky on the house , or, ...
There are limits for a home user....
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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Squozen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 pm

Indeed, all these things could happen, which is why I also recommend an offsite backup for irreplaceable data.

What I don't recommend is crossing your fingers and hoping none of them happen and then come crying to this forum when your data is lost.

Sorry to be blunt, I've been dealing with a crashed RAID array in Shanghai today. :)

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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Flopper » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:21 pm

I agree, up to a point for business use, this is a home setup.
And backup is ALWAYS a must, regardless of how many precautions one takes.
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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by brontolio » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:33 pm

I settled on separate admin and every-day regular user and I'm now using rsync to transfer stuff (one-way) from my linux box using the regular user.

Now going off-topic:
Squozen wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 pm
Indeed, all these things could happen, which is why I also recommend an offsite backup for irreplaceable data.
That's my next step. I want the NAS to manage offline backup of most important stuff (mostly photos) and I'm trying to figure out what's the better solution for my particular case (home user, static media files, weekly or monthly backups). I guess I could just use amazon prime photos and add a few GBs for documents and family videos. I guess I should Cloyd Sync instead of Hyper Backup for that purpose. I know this is a sync and not a proper backup but I'm using an external HDD to manage incremental backups as well. Any advice?

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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Flopper » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:39 pm

Personally, I gave up a long time ago on any Synology Backup 'solution', as there is not one doing a proper job.
I use a PC to handle that. One goes to another Synology elsewhere, using FTP. The other goes to my webspace where I have plenty of space, also FTP. My backup cost: ZERO!
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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Squozen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:53 pm

I use my Mac as my backup hub, not my Synology. The Synology is one target, then I have two external USB drives, one of which gets backed up to daily, the other weekly (and which I leave at work during the week), and then another backup goes to Backblaze. I don't have a lot of data I truly care about - it all fits easily on a 2TB drive.

Most of the data on the Synology is ripped DVDs/blurays and therefore I have physical backups. If the house burned down I'd lose both copies but the insurance would cover replacements.

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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by brontolio » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:11 pm

The main reason I want the NAS to take care of offline cloud backups are:
  • I'm on a slow DSL internet connection and uploading takes ages
  • I want to schedule backups
Using the Synology to take care of that seems logical since it is always on and it stores already the files I want to upload.

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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Squozen » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:51 am

That is fair. There are plenty of options in the package centre for online backup but I cannot give a recommendation as I've not used them.

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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by akahan » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:35 pm

A consideration, when backing up to the cloud, is how long it will take to restore if you have a disaster. If you're restoring just one file that you accidentally overwrite, no big deal. But if you are backing up, for example, images of your PCs' drives, it's going to take a VERY long time to restore an entire image over the net at typical ADSL speeds (even though download is much faster than upload, typically).

With that in mind, I put another Synology unit in a local hosting center. First, I backed my systems up to it here on my local LAN, then I took it across town and installed it at the hosting center, and incremental backups are done to it over the internet, as if it were a cloud server.

If I need to restore a small amount of data, that's easy enough. And if I need to restore an entire image, I can just go get it, bring it home, do the restore over the LAN (very fast), and then take it back to the hosting center. Best of both worlds.
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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Squozen » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:00 pm

Most cloud backup providers will mail you a hard drive for a nominal fee if you need to do a complete restore, but I agree that cloud shouldn't be your only source of backup.

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Re: should my user belong to the admin group?

Unread post by Flopper » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:09 pm

If disaster strikes, and I am not talking about 2-3 files, you will WISH you had a backup close to home! And you will be angry with yourself for spending money on ANY cloud service!
Go local,
For home use, consider family or a friend.
For business, make a deal with another company who sees the benefit of doing the same, and arrange some kind of backup exchange.
I even have a customer where the backups go this his home at night and how happy he was about a year ago we did it like that!
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