Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by Embattle » Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:36 pm

My Mothers wireless Laptop has been suffering this issue for a little while, the icon for our NAS no longer appears in the Computer section so you have to manually connect to it although this issue doesn't happen on my Desktop.
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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by Drew2u » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:24 am

There is a solution to this.

It is at the very bottom of this thread https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Fo ... networking

Per the poster, Microsoft has broken the Computer Browser feature and they don't plan to fix it (the feature will not be part of future releases).

The fix is to force your Synology box to be the Master Browser. You can do this by making sure it is the first box on the network to turn on or through editing the registry.

Sorry folks ... this sucks.

Edit ***** The other devices will show up, but you might have to hit refresh.
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Newly installed DS216J - can't see it in Network/Computers W10

Unread post by imacken » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:32 am

I just bought a DS216J, and everything is great except I can't see it in Windows 10 File Explorer>Network>Computers.
It shows up in Network>Other Devices, but clicking on that just brings up DSM.
Any ideas?
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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by eaz » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:36 am

Just create one or more network connections in windows explorer:
like p:\\192.168.x.yyy\public or m:\\192.168.x.yyy\music


and tick the box to reconnect on startup

As soon as you have connected at least one permanent share, the nas folder will appear.
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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by imacken » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:28 am

Thanks a lot, that will work.
I guess it's a common issue then, not just me.

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by eaz » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:34 am

Yes, some functionality has been removed from windows, and this is a workaround that works fine.
Please share if a reply was useful or how the issue was solved, it helps other DS users.

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Nas not showing in network windows 10

Unread post by blaize1310 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:19 am

Hi hoping this is a simple thing but I can not find it anywhere.

I have 3 synology Diskstations one DS412+ and two DS415+ on my home network.
They are all accessible manually i.e. //diskstaion01 but only the two 415+ NAS ever show up under computer section of Network on any of my 4 windows 10 machines, the 412+ shows as a media device with the other two 415+ and also under Other Devices.
They all have the same firmware version DSM 6.1.3-15152 Update 6.
Its annoying as the other two are always there and easily accessed by the family but this one is not????

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by eaz » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:44 am

Just take som time to read through this series of posts and you will probably find the causeand maybe some workarounds. Possibly the smb settings on the nas differ. two workarounds have been presented in the previous 10 posts.
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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by vuldub » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:24 pm

Why all these clumsy workarounds? The network list is not showing the server, but I can access our servers with \\"diskstation_name. That's me though, I don't expect all the users to be tech savy to do this. Perhaps MS is expecting us to use a different process (like drive mapping) to get access to the NAS for users. I don't like all these complex goofy workarounds - I don't have time to monkey with each user account and edit registries on all their computers or fix master browsers. So what do you think Synology or MS wants us to do to give easy access to our users?

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by dick w » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:20 pm

What I've learned about this suggests that this is little more than retaliation on Microsoft's part to try to get users of SMBv1 to get it off their networks. They have, maybe, a noble security concern driving this. But there are still brand new deices coming to the market that have functionality that REQUIRES SMBv1 and doesn't support anything better. HP, I'm looking at you and your MFPs!

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by keithsonic » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:54 am

I didn't lose the Workgroup access function with Fall Creators update but a subsequent update wiped this out. I couldn't see my NAS under Computers in Windows Explorer. This seems to be due to Microsoft discontinuing support for SMBv1 for security reasons as explained at link below. This seems to suggest there is a 15-day window to reinstall SMBv1, which I did in Windows Features and this restored the links. Windows 10 retains support for higher versions of SMB so presumably it is now down to Synology to move to one of these in due course.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-sg/hel ... rsion-1709

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by inu » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:38 pm

I think this is by no mean an MS' "bug". Rather it's a Synology problem. The only bad thing is that MS was keeping the NetBIOS-related stuff enabled for too long time. Because of that there was no incentive for device makers to migrate to more recent technologies for device discovery. Fortunately, the things has started to change (thanks to MS).

So now the ball is at the Synology' side. From the user's perspective, the only way to fix the problem is to ask Synology to implement the modern technologies such as UPnP and/or DPWS to advertise SMB shares.

BTW it's interesting, the UPnP data shows that the Synology box advertises itself as two devices, one is "Synology NAS" (just banner, no services advertised) and the second is "Synology DLNA Server" (when the respective package is installed). So it seems it'll not take huge effort for Synology to add SMB shares advertisement to the "Synology NAS" UPnP device. As for DPWS, I have a DPWS-enabled HP printer and my PC sees the printer and all works perfectly. Windows 10 supports DPWS just fine. For printing functionality anyway. But the DPWS explorer tool shows that Synology does not send DPWS messages so it does not implement DPWS.

The bottom line is the more requests from the user's community, the sooner it will be implemented.

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by RaisingArizona » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:50 am

Found fix for users with Windows 10 and finding that their NAS is not showing in File Explorer under Network.

On your Windows 10 PC ... do the following ...

Get to Control Panel in Win 10
Select Network and Sharing Center
Click Change adapter settings in left pane
Select the network adapter to change (you may have two, an Ethernet and Wi-Fi)
Right click the adapter and select properties
Highlight Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) and click the properties button
Click the Advanced button in the resulting window
Navigate to the WINS tab
Under the NetBIOS setting, select Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP
Click OK
Back out and check if that fixed things.

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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by trumpy81 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:17 am

Yes that works if your router does not support NetBIOS settings over DHCP or if your PC has a static IP Address, but it does not work in other situations.

The only thing I have found that works reliably is to disable Master Browser on all PC's and enable Master Browser on the NAS, but again, this does not work for everyone it seems.
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Re: Windows 10 - NAS not showing in Network

Unread post by tmoe » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:42 am

This is unacceptable for Synology to keep dumping this on the user and just say it's Microsoft's fault. They claim they work with Microsoft Windows client so they should make it work. We spend good money on these devices to only have them consistently not operate easily with a Microsoft Windows client. I have not such problem with my Mac's for folder shares or time machine.

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