OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby osplo » Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:13 pm

TonVH wrote:

SMB (on a Mac) used to be a lot slower than AFP. Sometimes up tot 40% slower. SMB2 is supposed to as fast (or maybe even faster than AFP.


So, considering that AFP does not seem to be affected and I am not using SMB at all, may I conclude that upgrading to Mavericks is safe (at least in my case)?

Fast access to the Synology box is critical.

Thanks again.
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby griffinto » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:53 pm

Please fix SMB2. My transfer speeds are awful with SMB 1 compared to AFP.
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby zoph » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:26 am

same problem here, please fix ASAP
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby gd11_be » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:40 am

same issue here: very very slow. Doing a backup and I get 2 GB transferred in a 10 minutes ! Just responding, so that I can follow the discussion here
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby osplo » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:27 pm

gd11_be wrote:same issue here: very very slow. Doing a backup and I get 2 GB transferred in a 10 minutes ! Just responding, so that I can follow the discussion here


Trying to understand here, no sarcasm, but why don't you use AFP instead? Others claim that AFP speed is unaffected under Mavericks. Thanks.
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby gd11_be » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:03 pm

OK, I have to admit that what I am seeing has nothing to do with this topic. I am talking about TimeMachine and that is still using AFP. That is what it shows in the 'Current connections' of the Resource Monitor. So ignore my previous post, I am will continue searching what is going on.
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby ericdano » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:17 am

The Beta being out has nothing to do with it. A NUMBER of features in 10.9 didn't get done until just before release, including things like iBooks.

Now the SMB2 stuff, perhaps there is a bug in there. I imagine that Apple will have an update out shortly if there is (supposedly 10.9.1 is already floating around)

gamov wrote:
anschmid wrote:Does this mean the Synology guys never even signed up for the Mavericks BETA testing and tried if their stuff will work? :x


Quite shocking from a company like Synology… Beta has been available since june!
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby ericdano » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:19 am

SMB2 is supposed to be a lot faster than AFP....

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/06/ ... -mavericks

TonVH wrote:
osplo wrote:
TonVH wrote:I Use Blackmagic for speed testing and the results remain the same. About 110/110 between a iMac and DS713+ (Raid-0). So no complaint on that point.

Thanks.
So I assume that the problem seems to be that SMB2 was much faster? Or was it in the same range?
If AFP is on Mavericks as fast as SMB2 I don't understand the problem (excuse my ignorance).
Thanks again!


SMB (on a Mac) used to be a lot slower than AFP. Sometimes up tot 40% slower. SMB2 is supposed to as fast (or maybe even faster than AFP.
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby Llama » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:06 pm

Just subscribing as I have the same issue, but my DiskStation is a 409Slim and officially EOL. I wonder if they will fix it for the 4.2 code line as well.

Folks using Mavericks to connect to other SMB2 hosts are reporting that the SMB_VERSION returned from 'smbutil statshares" is "SMB_2.1".

If I set my NAS to use SMB2/Large MTU I definitely cannot connect via SMB from Mavericks. If I uncheck and restart the NAS networking service I can, of course, connect fine:

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$ smbutil statshares -a

==========================================
SHARE                         ATTRIBUTE TYPE                VALUE
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NAS
                                  SERVER_NAME                    DiskStation
                                  USER_ID                             501
                                  SMB_NEGOTIATE                 AUTO_NEGOTIATE
                                  SMB_VERSION                     SMB_1
                                  SMB_SHARE_TYPE               UNKNOWN
                                  EXTENDED_SECURITY_SUPPORTED   TRUE
                                  UNIX_SUPPORT                   TRUE
                              LARGE_FILE_SUPPORTED    TRUE
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby tau_ceti » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:46 pm

It's not just a problem with Synology. Seems like someone was asleep at the wheel at Apple and tree'd the SMB car.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5467191
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby james_levander » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:25 pm

I have also noticed the performance of writes to the Synology DS212 (DSM 4.3-3776) from my MBP 13" (OSX 10.9) to be particularly slow in finder using smb://. I have found that writing to the Synology via SCP, afp:// or cifs:// to these same samba shares gives reasonable speeds.

Look forward to a resolution for SMB2 though (seems like a Mavericks issue based on the above post).
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby KPRK » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:19 pm

Hi,

I recently got a new MBP (late 2013, OSX 10.9), and could not load my DS412+ shares in any way. The old MBP (2007, OSX 10.8) worked fine. On the new MBP, I could see the DiskStation and load the browser page, but that was it.

Then I learned about switching off SMB2. Thank you, David Fu!

Once I had SMB switched off, both SMB and AFP connections worked.
I then proceeded to establish a TimeMachine volume, but could not get this displayed in the volume dialog of the TimeMachine control panel. So I read in the support forums about this (by now very well known) issue. I did not find it before because I did not search for SMB or SMB2.

And now comes the interesting part. Users who had before (under 10.8) established a connection could switch SMB2 on and connect via AFP (but *not* via SMB2!) under 10.9. Note that I could not connect any way when SMB2 was enabled. But as soon as I had the AFP connection established once with SMB2 disabled, I could re-enable SMB2 and *still* connect via AFP. And once I had this established (SMB2 on, connection via AFP), TimeMachine displayed all Synology volumes and I could start the backup function.

Funny, isn't it? If that is not a bug, what is?
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby osplo » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:58 am

Any news about this? Thanks
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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby eampudia » Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:57 pm

After upgrading to Maverick the performance of read/write using AFP is really really really low...
I have a DS411j and a iMac , both connected with 1Gb ethernet to a Gigaethernet switch.
SMB2 is not working, and SMB1 is as low as AFP.. It's imposible to work on it. :(

thanks.

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Re: OS X 10.9 Mavericks - SMB2 Fails with DSM 4.3

Postby gamov » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:49 am

More than two weeks that Mavericks has been released and still no official word from Synology about that.
Not taking Mac customers very seriously IMO.
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