New application: simple webbrowser

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Integrate a (simple) webbrowser in DSM Desktop

Yes
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92%
No
17
8%
 
Total votes: 206

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by Jorabi » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:42 am

cfuttrup wrote:
I voted no. This (any web browser) can create major problems in regard to security. Be careful what you wish for. At least for sure don't make it standard.

/Claus
I need this badly. It would be nice if you had supported the development merely because so many others need it, even if you don't. A newer thread shows over 100 yes votes. Please support us.

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by cfuttrup » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:12 pm

Hi Jorabi

I believe in prioritizing other features over a web browser. A web browser feature from within the DSM web-gui itself is IMHO a bad idea. I hope the Synology team will spend its time wisely elsewhere.

/Claus

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by Jorabi » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:27 pm

A misguided opinion IMO. Myself and countless others get into the situation where we support Synology users and need to get to their router GUI to make changes. The only way to do so is to have a web browser that can access their local network by way of the DSM interface. You might say VPN and/or remote router management is the answer, but that is a chicken and egg situation.

The request for an integrated basic browser goes back several years and it is obviously falling on deaf ears. Part of the reason is there are voices such as yours actively campaigning against it rather than supporting those of us who desperately need it. Any security concerns could easily be addressed in the design.

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by cfuttrup » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:49 pm

Hi Jorabi

The idea of having a browser available from within a router sounds like an even worse idea. From the outside (the open internet) and into a certain LAN, the router is that important piece of equipment, that must offer protection. To have a browser here would keep me awake at night.

At any rate, my (previous) responses are directly related to NAS, not router (see subject of the discussion). I have no experience with Synology routers and no plans to purchase one, so a Synology router-browser is not an important topic for me, personally. It would just keep me from buying the product.

Your points as to tailoring a browser to fit the specific purpose you're pointing at, is outside the scope of what I can discuss. The present thread and poll doesn't sketch this, but simply asks the question whether a browser is a desirable piece of software to have in the DSM.

/Claus

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by Jorabi » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:36 pm

I apologize for going over your head. This has nothing to do with routers. I am talking about the same thing as everyone else, a web browser inside DSM. I gave an example of one destination a web browser might be used to access inside the local network.

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Re: New application: simple webbrowser

Unread post by wayneg82 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:51 pm

+1

This would be really useful. Please implement.

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by Hoe » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:15 pm

I get people arguing the security risks but there are plenty of other apps avaialble for download with a security risk in place and nobody complains about this.

Furthermore I think if it's wisely implemented it should be pretty secure, I.E. No Flash, Java or any other plugs, just a basic web-browser which by default is restricted to LAN Access Only!

This way you can acceess any sites you have on your LAN but nothing more, on that basis if you manage to hit an infection, well you were already impending doom anyway as it came from your LAN, there is an argument for giving people the option to access WAN from it if enabled too but I personally can't see any good use for it.

People suggest reverse proxies, port forwarding etc. which in some cases is almost certainly the right way to go about it, but in my view you want the least WAN facing Open Ports as possible, so if that can be reduced to 1 point of entry through the DSM Login behind your Certificate with a decent password I don't think there is much more you can do, unless you want to go VPN or SSH Route but as people have discussed this is not always practicle!

So yes +1

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by iknowtech » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:57 pm

Poll already exists on this subject.

https://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopi ... webbrowser

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Re: Want a Synology NAS Native Browser(Chrome or Firefox)?

Unread post by seanspotatobusiness » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:55 pm

I also want this.

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Re: New application: simple webbrowser

Unread post by TJBHunter » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:17 pm

I really want a web browser too. After reading this thread, I am seeing references to “QNAP”. Never heard of it, but I am going to look into this and learn more. It seems like DSM has been falling behind in many categories and I’m considering switching.

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Re: New application: simple webbrowser

Unread post by Twisted World » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:08 pm

TJBHunter wrote:I really want a web browser too. After reading this thread, I am seeing references to “QNAP”. Never heard of it, but I am going to look into this and learn more. It seems like DSM has been falling behind in many categories and I’m considering switching.
Been looking at the very same. I didn't really get into it that deep to conclude that Synology is "falling behind", but I DID notice that QNAP is putting way more value in what customers want. They seem to be updating apps with features that are actually requested, instead of focussing on new stuff nobody asked for and needs expensive licenses to actually use. I'm about to replace two older Synology boxes soon, I think one of those will be a QNAP, just to experiment and compare a bit.
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Re: New application: simple webbrowser

Unread post by TJBHunter » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:02 am

Twisted World wrote: I think one of those will be a QNAP, just to experiment and compare a bit.
Keep us posted! My buddy is buying a NAS server, and I’ve been helpibg him decide what to get. I just text him and told him about QNAP. He was going to get the DS218+ but after reading about QNAP he’s set on the QNAP TS-251+. It has so many more features! HDMI output and a web browser just to name a couple. I can’t wait to help him set it up and see what it can do.

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Re: New application: simple webbrowser

Unread post by hsandick » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:30 pm

Yes. Simple webbrowser

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Re: New application: simple webbrowser

Unread post by cfuttrup » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:02 pm

I really don't understand why some people think this is a good idea ... this "new" thread on the same subject as previously discussed - underlines that a simple one is desired. What for? How simple? Would it work OK with Lynx? ... I think Lynx could be packaged for the DiskStation without too much effort.

/Claus

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Re: New application: simple webbrowser

Unread post by Jorabi » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:33 pm

cfuttrup wrote:I really don't understand why some people think this is a good idea ... this "new" thread on the same subject as previously discussed - underlines that a simple one is desired. What for? How simple? Would it work OK with Lynx? ... I think Lynx could be packaged for the DiskStation without too much effort.

/Claus
And you have been answered numerous times. If you don't know why people think it is a good idea by now, you are either not paying attention or are incapable of understanding simple concepts.

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