SSD Cache 6 month lifespan?

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SSD Cache 6 month lifespan?

Unread post by stevenb » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:08 pm

Good morning,

Our RS2416RP+ has managed to chew through 2 Samsung EVO 850's in less than 6 months. The reported lifespan is now around 5% and 12%.

The box is used as an iscsi target for a network share serving about 50 users. The usage is pretty mild compared to our Nimble that does most of the heavy usage stuff.

Anyone having similar issues? Is that really to be expected? I would guess that the SSD's are fine and the software used to predict the lifespan is incorrect. When the replacements come I'll verify how much life is left and report what I find.

Thanks,

Steven

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Re: SSD Cache 6 month lifespan?

Unread post by sincarne » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:40 am

you use consumer SSD for enterprise use. this expected to happen. use SSD with high workload instead

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Re: SSD Cache 6 month lifespan?

Unread post by spikemixture » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:15 am

stevenb wrote:Good morning,

Our RS2416RP+ has managed to chew through 2 Samsung EVO 850's in less than 6 months. The reported lifespan is now around 5% and 12%.

The box is used as an iscsi target for a network share serving about 50 users. The usage is pretty mild compared to our Nimble that does most of the heavy usage stuff.

Anyone having similar issues? Is that really to be expected? I would guess that the SSD's are fine and the software used to predict the lifespan is incorrect. When the replacements come I'll verify how much life is left and report what I find.

Thanks,

Steven
Hey Steven,

What happened when they went down to 1% or 0%

I have 2 of the same in a 1817+ mine are down to 16 and 14% after 7 months!

I too think its a false reading - but that wont help if they just stop "cache"ing when they get to 1 or 0% !
1817+ - 2 x 4TB WD Red/ 2x6TB WD Red / 2x6TB Ironwolf/ 2x10TB Ironwolf

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Re: SSD Cache 6 month lifespan?

Unread post by nasDave40 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:29 pm

They could be programmed to go in to read only mode. I think some Intel SSDs did that. Likely they will continue until failure which is the approach most companies have taken.

SSDs are hoped to fail in a read only state but usually they die a catastrophic death. Hence why Intel opted to prematurely kill their drives and leave them in a read state for date recovery.

SSD cache is a bad solution for most companies. It only works well if you need it desperately and can afford the sacrificial cost every year or two. In these scenarios only enterprise SLC drivers will do.
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Re: SSD Cache 6 month lifespan?

Unread post by spikemixture » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:25 am

nasDave40 wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:29 pm
They could be programmed to go in to read only mode. I think some Intel SSDs did that. Likely they will continue until failure which is the approach most companies have taken.

SSDs are hoped to fail in a read only state but usually they die a catastrophic death. Hence why Intel opted to prematurely kill their drives and leave them in a read state for date recovery.

SSD cache is a bad solution for most companies. It only works well if you need it desperately and can afford the sacrificial cost every year or two. In these scenarios only enterprise SLC drivers will do.
Update on my 2 SSD's . I took them out of my 1817+ when 1 was 9% and the other 8%.

The same 2 are now in a big Qnap box and are working with all tests showing "good"
I cannot find any where to show usage or life expectancy (have asked on qnap forum).

So at this stage I still believe Synology was giving a false reading and the drives were indeed no where near the life expectancy shown.
1817+ - 2 x 4TB WD Red/ 2x6TB WD Red / 2x6TB Ironwolf/ 2x10TB Ironwolf

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