DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

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DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby Cruji » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:45 pm

Hi,

Only a whisper, but somebody know any news about DSM 5.0? May be the date for this launch will be 16 January 2014? :D

http://www.mundonas.com/2013/09/dsm-50- ... vista.html
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Re: DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby martinp » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:43 am

The launch event has been posted on the UK website, confirming the 16th January date:

http://www.synology.com/events/2014_dsm ... hp?lang=uk
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Re: DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby sonynair » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:38 pm

I'll be attending (I attended the DSM4.3 in Manchester earlier this year).

Hopefully DSM5.0 is a huge leap forward.

Looking forward to this event.
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DSM 5.0 Beta

Postby jakob147 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:53 pm

I just saw this on the website:
http://www.synology.com/events/2014_dsm ... p?lang=nld

Any news on features? :)
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Re: DSM 5.0 Beta

Postby nytemayr » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:36 pm

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Re: DSM 5.0 Beta

Postby habanr » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:43 pm

Oh no. I don't want another version. Please repair existing version...
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Re: DSM 5.0 Beta

Postby Llama » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:52 pm

Oh my, I wonder if this is when they'll announce that the DS411Slim (and other x11 hardware) will no longer be supported as well. ;)
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Re: DSM 5.0 Beta

Postby norcat » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:48 am

Llama wrote:Oh my, I wonder if this is when they'll announce that the DS411Slim (and other x11 hardware) will no longer be supported as well. ;)

As far I know the products don't come with any DSM update guarantee, although DSM update functionality is a built-in part of this OS and this indicates some updates should/could be available after its initial release. A quick look at the support for one-bays shows this pattern:
    114: 4.3 current
    112: 4.3 current
    111: 4.3 current
    110: 4.3 current
    109: 4.2 Apr 2013
    108: 4.0 May 2012
    107: 3.1 Nov 2011 (+ later patch)
    106: 2.0 Jan 2009
    101: 2.0 Jul 2006
So x11 series could be two years down the line, or longer, or at the end already, who knows? I think there's been talk at the forums before about the cpu architecture to be the limiting factor. I think if they have a release and could simply compile it for a given cpu then they would.

Having a DS-109 I think that came a long way from its first DSM 2.1 up to DSM 4.2. My DS-111 also started with DSM 3.0 and now has the current 4.3. There has been a lot of progress the last years.
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Re: DSM 5.0 Beta

Postby Llama » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:42 pm

norcat wrote:
Llama wrote:Oh my, I wonder if this is when they'll announce that the DS411Slim (and other x11 hardware) will no longer be supported as well. ;)

As far I know the products don't come with any DSM update guarantee, although DSM update functionality is a built-in part of this OS and this indicates some updates should/could be available after its initial release. A quick look at the support for one-bays shows this pattern:
    114: 4.3 current
    112: 4.3 current
    111: 4.3 current
    110: 4.3 current
    109: 4.2 Apr 2013
    108: 4.0 May 2012
    107: 3.1 Nov 2011 (+ later patch)
    106: 2.0 Jan 2009
    101: 2.0 Jul 2006
True enough I don't consider most consumer products to have a stated support life cycle , but my real concern and beef is that the DS409Slim has only been updated to the DS411Slim, while the one bay examples you listed above have had a x10, x11, x12, x13 and x14. I can certainly agree that 4 supported hardware model releases is sufficient. The 411Slim has a mild CPU speed bump, but admittedly doubles the RAM to 256MB; if there was a DS414Slim I'd quit my whining and upgrade, but the notion of upgrading to 3 release old hardware with a *possible* DSM lifespan of a couple more years max is not inviting.

As for the architechture being the limiting factor, that is probably not the case as people have installed 4.3 on non supported models and there have been threads discussion of the hardware differences between x09 and x1n versions of specific hardware being minor to almost nonexistent.
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Re: DSM 5.0 Beta

Postby habanr » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:25 pm

Synology has basic functionality problems that haven't been solved so far. Please solve that issues first...
  • Problem with UPS and correct DS behavior after electricity supply is recovered
  • Raid and disk compatibility problems
  • DS freezing
  • Network and disk performance issues
  • Deep system sleep doesn't work
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Re: DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby gangsterwagen » Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:15 am

QTS 4.1 can be hard to beat by DSM 5.0.
I'm interesting what new features brings DSM 5.0. Will see.

Especialy Virtualization is hot.
http://www.slideshare.net/qnapchris/qts-41-presentation
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Re: DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby dMajo » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:19 pm

gangsterwagen wrote:QTS 4.1 can be hard to beat by DSM 5.0.
I'm interesting what new features brings DSM 5.0. Will see.

Especialy Virtualization is hot.
http://www.slideshare.net/qnapchris/qts-41-presentation


I agree. I own a TS-569 and a DS1513. The main thing I miss on the syno is the support for virtualbox (presently capable of running 64bit guests on x70 and greater qnap models; 32bit guests on all intels).

Till now I considered the qnap hw a bit superior but syno's DSM is much better. ds1513/1813 are great models and if I were syno I will introduce the same casings also with i3/i7 (perhaps fourth generation) support and I'll drop all the 4 bay units.
So 1/2 bay marvell/atom d2700/CEC; 5/8 bays AtomD2700/i3/i7 and the enterprise rackmount models i5/i7/Xeon. Less product lines but with better/greater selected sw offerings. With well designed/engineered cases perhaps syno can offer hw upgrade kits (to replace the mb and revitalize older models like samsung is doing with its top series smarttv)

The big advantage in virtualization support is that even if you are searching for some app that isn't supported by syno or its 3rd parties you can always run it in a VM under linux/windows. Why run an additional pc when the nas is supposed to be switched on 24/7 with a greater eye on power consumption?
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Re: DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby gangsterwagen » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:25 pm

Additional pros for Synology is DSM upgrade for 4 years. Qnap has probably less. There is no need to change hardware.
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Re: DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby tose » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:13 am

Does anyone have a sense whether DSM 5.0 might emulate an MS AD & allow adding of M$ clients ?
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Re: DSM 5.0 in January 2014?

Postby gangsterwagen » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:36 pm

tose wrote:Does anyone have a sense whether DSM 5.0 might emulate an MS AD & allow adding of M$ clients ?


I hope that DSM will have the same features as QTS, including MS AD and much more apart of apps, which are significantly greater in Qnap.
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