Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby madgunde » Sun May 25, 2008 4:31 pm

andre68723 wrote:Thanks, now after using the correct MAC address it works. :D

However, I try to backup my 320gb internal Imac drive which is 300GB full. Created a 400 GB image on an external USB drive an moved it to the DS, however, now after 6,5 hours its 32 of 261 GB backed up.
Is there any way I do the backup first to the external usb drive where the image is and later move it to the DS?
Or will it only work when the initial Backup is created on the DS..

I have to say, I wouldnt want to wait 2,5 days for the initial backup. I have a DS108 connected via WLAN to a FritzBox router.

Well if you're doing it over WiFi, then it's no surprise it's taking so long to do the backup. I have a gigabit ethernet wired network and my 100GB initial backups still take over 10 hours.

Since you have the image created on the USB drive, why don't you go ahead and try doing the initial backup to the USB drive and transfer it over. Let us know if it works for you. If it ignores your disk image and just starts creating folders on the USB drive, you'll know it's not working. When using a local USB drive, I think Time Machine usually doesn't use a disk image, it just stores the data within a folder called Backups.backupdb, but maybe if it sees the disk image already exists, it will use that instead. Worth a shot.
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby seanfitz » Wed May 28, 2008 8:17 am

I found this article to be the quickest and easiest approach to setting up Time Machine on the Synology:
http://www.readynas.com/?p=253

No external drive required, just cut/paste the Terminal command in the article (adjusting the maximum size of the Time Machine backup if desired).
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby ikisai » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:32 pm

I followed the instructions but the sparseimage fails to appear on the NAS (407) even though rsync doesn't show an error, so time machine can't mount the drive because it's no there!

Any ideas ?
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby seanfitz » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:02 am

Create the sparseimage on your local machine, then copy it over to the Synology, then point Time Machine to the correct Synology mount. See the instructions I posted above, they work really well.

NOTE: if you switch between SMB and AFP mounting, Time Machine may get unhappy. Stick to one or the other throughout the process. I even went into Keychain Access and deleted the AFP passwords so that it could not automatically mount (I wanted SMB only).
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby ikisai » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:37 pm

I followed all the steps exactly as set out on ReadyNAS site, however I also turned AFP on and then off this morning.

In the end I also went in to Keychain and deleted all references to my NAS, rebooted my Mac, reconnected using an smb:://user@nas/share command and changed TM to point to it, at this moment it appears to be backing up to it at last and does at least tell me its mounting and unmounting the drive. aargh - it just came up to tell me it couldn't mount the disk image so still not working, could be a permissions thing i guess so will go check all that, I may start from scratch again.

EDIT: I've got it working now but under a new account on my Mac, so in the end I think it was a permissions thing, I may change it all to get it under my usual account but it seems to be working with both accounts logged in, once its finished (tomorrow probably) I'll see what happens when the backup account its under isn't logged in, i.e. will it still backup ok? I've checked and seen that TM does back up all accounts but not found anything so far about whether it will work when the user it is set up under is not logged in. I may have to make the share from CS407 automount always, can anyone confirm ?
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Re: iBackup

Postby victor » Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:36 am

mr207nl wrote:I've messed around with TM and my DS207. I found it to be slow and cumbersome. even on a GB lan connection working with TM isnt fluent enough. I now use Ibackup and Superduper as backup alternatives.


I also like to use iBackup with the DS107+, but i found several errors in the logfile. Errors which indicate user violating folders or files.
Errors like "rsync chgrp", even on empty folders. Even if I backup the system preferences in Leopard.
I mount the DS107+ by AFS. I am the only user on the iMac, and I am logged in as administrator.
Can you show me the preferences you made in iBackup?
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby hewimeddel » Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:33 pm

hi,

since i'm getting my first mac tomorrow i'd like to know if there are any news on this?
Does TM work correctly with quotas?
Are there any long-term problems?

Which FileSystem should i use, AFP or SMB? (I don't mind backup speed, but my mac system should work without "breaks" like mentioned above)

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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby gshafer » Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:00 pm

Has anyone ever got this to work on a 101J ?

Following the tutorial post here gets you close but it fails and says it cannot create the backup image.
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby hewimeddel » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:47 pm

It's working for me after using this german tutorial:
http://www.ratschlag24.com/index.php/ma ... lan-festp/

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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby RL » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:20 am

Yes, the solution is out there and many get it working.

The key question is, and I don't have the luxury to test this-

Can you perform system re-installation and restore from your TM's NAS backup?


From my little experience in re-installing Mac OS X, there is a point which it ask you if you want to restore from backup, I cannot remember if you are able to map the NAS at that point of time.
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby ikisai » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:51 am

RL wrote:Yes, the solution is out there and many get it working.

The key question is, and I don't have the luxury to test this-

Can you perform system re-installation and restore from your TM's NAS backup?


From my little experience in re-installing Mac OS X, there is a point which it ask you if you want to restore from backup, I cannot remember if you are able to map the NAS at that point of time.


I also haven't been able to check it out but my understanding is you would do a fresh install, setup TM again and then restore ?!?!?
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby Stork » Wed May 19, 2010 12:40 am

According to Apple Support, here's how you restore under OS X 10.5 (source: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.5/en/15638.html):

1. Connect your Time Machine backup disk [or network] to your computer. If you’re restoring your system because of a problem with your startup disk, make sure the disk has been repaired or replaced.
2. Insert your Mac OS X Install disk, and double-click the Install Mac OS X icon.
3. In the Installer, choose Utilities > Restore System from Backup.
4. In the Restore Your System dialog, click Continue.
5. Select your Time Machine backup volume.
6. Select the Time Machine backup you want to restore.
7. Follow the onscreen instructions.

Another Apple support document for OS X 10.5 can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1177

If your using OS X 10.6, the procedure is the same.

Now, if you're into reading, here's the link to Apple's Mac 101 series on Time Machine: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1427

I'm going to update my MBP's 320GB HD to a 500GB'er. I'll try the above method via the DS110j. If I have trouble, I'll report back. Otherwise, no news is good news.
DS110j w/2TB (WD20EARS)
DNS 323 (D-Link) w/2-1TB (Seagate 7200.11 that work)
Apple Time Capsule, running 11g on 2.4GHz & 11n on 5GHz
Apple Express, several connected to stereo receivers for music steaming
Apple Max Mini HTPC, 500GB internal, 2TB external firewire iTunes library & 2TB external firewire backup

I just want to enjoy music and movies/TV shows.
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby mispel » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:33 pm

If I understand correct the solutions described above are about how to built a new TM-archive on a NAS.
I have an existing TM-archive on an external disk which I want to move to my 210J and continue to
use that.
How can I achieve that?

Thanks
Kind regards,
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby bmcintyre » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:08 pm

IF YOU ARE SETTING UP YOUR NAS TO WORK WITH TIME MACHINE, READ BELOW!!! THERE HAS BEEN AN UPDATE TO DSM!!

I hope that you have reached this before you started executing any of the obsolete hacks to get Time Machine to work with your DIskstation. The process now is too simple and will only take a minute to set up.

Understanding of TIme Station works a little will help. Time Station will save all of the backups of you system until the disk is full. As the hard drive starts to get more full, Time Machine will start to trim the fat of old backups so that new backups can still fit. There are two methods to limit the amount of hard drive space that Time Machine will use.

a) Set up a separate partition just for Time Machine Backups.

b) (The easiest and most painless method which I will use below) Set up a separate user on your Diskstation just for backups and limit their quota of disk space to the amount that you want used for backups, IE. 150 GB.

Step-by-Step:

a) Login to your Diskstation as the administrator.
b) Under 'Control Panel' -> 'Share Folder' click 'Create' in order to create a folder to save the Time Machine backup to
c) Select a name of your choice for the folder, IE. 'Backup', then click 'Okay'
d) Navigate to 'Control Panel' -> 'Win/Mac/NFS' -> "Mac File Service' and check 'Enable Mac File Service'
e) At the 'Time Machine' drop down menu, choose the name of the Share Folder you create in step 'C' above, then click 'OK'
f) Navigate to 'Control Panel' -> 'Users' -> 'Create' -> 'Create Users'
g) Select a name for your user, IE. Backup, and a password. I suggest using the same password as your admin password so that you won't forget it. Select 'Next'
h) Select a group for the new user, I suggest 'users' and the select 'Next'
i) To assign priviliges, click the small box next to 'No Access' to deny access to all folders.
j) Click the Read/Write box which correlates with the folder you created in set 'C' and then click'Next'
k) Now to assign the quota. Click the box 'Enable Quota' and type a number of Gigbytes which you want to limit for you time machine backups. Click 'Next'
l) Review your settings and choose 'ok'

The remaining steps are done in TIme Machine on your Mac.

1) Click the Time Machine icon on the bar at the top of your screen and choose whichever is available 'Set Up Time Machine' or 'Open TIme Machine Preferences'
2) From there select a disk to save your time machine to. Select your Diskstation and enter the username and password setup in step 'G" above'
3) Now your computer will backup to your Diskstation without using the entire Diskstation hard drive.
* If you cannot view your diskstation in step '2' above, ensure you have previously logged into it in 'Finder'
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Re: Apple OSX 10.5 Leopard: Time Machine support?

Postby larsalex » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:14 am

I've doing as described in previous post already for a while.
Worked fine. However, things have changed after upgrading to DSM3.1 - 1594
Initially the usual timemachine incremental backups were still running fine after going to 1594.

Now I've replaced the harddisk in my MBP 4.1 snow leopard 10.6.6.
I've made a superduper copy from old to new harddisk.
Now timemachine wants to start from scratch, I guess the incremental metadata got lost or so?
This process fails. The DS freezes. Still web access, but no functionality works from the web UI and
all shares are unavailable. When I try to restart it from web UI, led starts blinking, never restarts.
I have to pull the plug to awake the DS.

I have seen this more times when trying to move or copy large amounts of files after upgraden to 1594, never before.
I did a re-install of 1594 using the press-reset-twice method. Seems not to have helped.

Clueless.
Tempted to press-reset-twice again and go back to previous DSM 3.1 or maybe even 3.0. But is that wise?
DS210j 2x HD154UI (2x 1.5TB) DSM3.1 - 1594
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