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Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby rj_baker » Wed May 16, 2012 4:41 pm

Hi guys,

Am a newbie, so pls forgive my ignorance. Just want some help in choosing. Home use, will primarily be using it for the

1) backing up my data currently spread all across on 5 1.5 TB HDD.
2) hosting 3 websites
3) backing up iTunes data and accessing it on multiple devices.

I use macs, pcs and iPads, so want something that is compatible with all these.

Trying to decide between Ds411j, Ds411 and Ds412+

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby Jeremie » Mon May 21, 2012 8:57 am

rj_baker wrote:Hi guys,

Am a newbie, so pls forgive my ignorance. Just want some help in choosing. Home use, will primarily be using it for the

1) backing up my data currently spread all across on 5 1.5 TB HDD.
2) hosting 3 websites
3) backing up iTunes data and accessing it on multiple devices.

I use macs, pcs and iPads, so want something that is compatible with all these.

Trying to decide between Ds411j, Ds411 and Ds412+

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Rj


Hi,

For hosting websites and backing up data, these 3 models will all have enough performances, so for the use you want to make of your DS, all 3 will be suitable.
Compatibility with your devices will not be a problem either.

The DS412+ will be more suitable if ever you need to carry out tasks putting heavy loads on the CPU (transcoding for example) the DS412+ has a Dual Core 2.13Ghz (with Floating point), whereas the other 2 models have single core CPUs of 1.2GHz for the DS411j, 1.6Ghz for the DS411). Also, note that the DS411j does not have any eSATA port as opposed to the 2 others.
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Hope it helps,

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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby rj_baker » Tue May 29, 2012 3:28 am

Dear Jeremie,

Thank you for your response. Really appreciate it.
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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby myCloud » Tue May 29, 2012 12:08 pm

Also note the 411j has a paltry 128 MB of memory. The 512 MB in the 411 should be enough for most anything you use the DS for, but it's also not the latest series from Synology. I was going to buy a 412+ but spent the extra for the 5-bay 1512+ in order to have the same usable disk space the 412+ would give me with RAID 5, as a RAID 6.
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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby Stuckster » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:29 pm

myCloud wrote:Also note the 411j has a paltry 128 MB of memory. The 512 MB in the 411 should be enough for most anything you use the DS for, but it's also not the latest series from Synology. I was going to buy a 412+ but spent the extra for the 5-bay 1512+ in order to have the same usable disk space the 412+ would give me with RAID 5, as a RAID 6.


As new owners of a DS411j, we bought it as as entry level NAS to save money. But now we're finding the performance for general home networking tasks very underwhelming. It will transfer and serve files ok, but as soon as you try to run more than a couple of applications it completely chokes. We are so frustrated we are now looking to upgrade to the DS412+ and keeping the DS411j as an offsite backup unit.
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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby CLoSeR » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:17 am

Stuckster wrote:As new owners of a DS411j, we bought it as as entry level NAS to save money. But now we're finding the performance for general home networking tasks very underwhelming. It will transfer and serve files ok, but as soon as you try to run more than a couple of applications it completely chokes. We are so frustrated we are now looking to upgrade to the DS412+ and keeping the DS411j as an offsite backup unit.


I'm also wanting to buy my first Synology NAS and am deliberately holding off for a replacement of the DS411J to be released. I want something which will be future proof for a next few years, 128MB RAM is just not enough.

I've heard the DS413J is due sometime later in the year, following the DS413 and 413+.

I'll probably buy the DS413 or if I can't wait the DS412+.
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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby edbyford » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:49 am

Hello all,

I am having the same difficulty deciding between these three NAS devices; can someone please confirm/deny my assumptions below?

My primary use will be backup and serving up 1080p video to devices in my house. These devices include PCs, a Boxee box, and a PS3.

Am I right in thinking that:

1. the Boxee box and PCs will not need any transcoding to be done by the DiskStation, but the PS3 will?

2. if I have to transcode 1080p files for the PS3, then the CPU and 128mb of the DS411j will be insufficient?

3. however if I convert the 1080p files on the DS411j to a format the PS3 can understand, then no transcoding will have to be performed, and the performance of the DS411j will be adequate?

4. the DS411j will be able to serve at least two HD streams, while downloading torrents?

Basically I am looking for the cheapest device which will keep up with my needs for the next couple of years... Ideally I would just go for the DS412+ and forget my worries, but £500 without drives is just too much for me - I could buy a PC for that!

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby Eideen » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:26 pm

edbyford wrote:Hello all,

I am having the same difficulty deciding between these three NAS devices; can someone please confirm/deny my assumptions below?

My primary use will be backup and serving up 1080p video to devices in my house. These devices include PCs, a Boxee box, and a PS3.

Am I right in thinking that:

1. the Boxee box and PCs will not need any transcoding to be done by the DiskStation, but the PS3 will?

2. if I have to transcode 1080p files for the PS3, then the CPU and 128mb of the DS411j will be insufficient?

3. however if I convert the 1080p files on the DS411j to a format the PS3 can understand, then no transcoding will have to be performed, and the performance of the DS411j will be adequate?

4. the DS411j will be able to serve at least two HD streams, while downloading torrents?

Basically I am looking for the cheapest device which will keep up with my needs for the next couple of years... Ideally I would just go for the DS412+ and forget my worries, but £500 without drives is just too much for me - I could buy a PC for that!

Thanks in advance for your help.


1. yes
2. yes, it can't run transcoding.
3. yes then you don't need to transcode.
4. i don't know.

When I was planing on buying my NAS it was a price differences of 120€ for a PC without drives and OS with intel atom cpu. for a simlar chase and power using. DS412+ is easyer to setup, better interface, looks betre, comes with a lot of 3rd party packages ready to install, synology support, mabe not spend so much time troling the internet to setup all programs.

But comparing the DS412+ vs DS411j, the DS412+ can have more "Maximum Concurrent Download Tasks" 80 vs. 20, cloadstation can have 32 vs. 8 users. DS412+ have a higher Wife Appeal Factor, it have USB 3 for more disk, and a eSATA port, it can do transcoding.
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Re: Deciding between ds411j, ds411 or ds412+ for home use

Postby nisiwi » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:59 pm

The DS411J is lacking any real guts that a few users would demand from such as system. Just deleting a few thousand files takes an unbelievable amount of time. Avoid like the plague. I only wish I could upgrade to the DS412+ without having to buy yet another NAS!!
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