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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby docchris » Fri May 20, 2011 2:36 pm

(i'm very aware that's gross oversimplification - but you get my point)
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby K1LL3M » Sat May 21, 2011 1:01 am

JohnD76 wrote:It seems odd to use SATA II when you are using Infiniband 12gb/s and can get 10G NIC's.


I can agree it does seem odd to not just use sata3. We can only assume it was a cost saving decision, though I don't imagine it would of added much. You'd have to agree though, that there would of been no real performance benefit offered by sata3 based of performance numbers reported.
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby maxxfi » Sat May 21, 2011 8:37 am

Besides, especially when the performance gain is doubtful, personally I would prefer
a true and tested old SATA 2 controller over a faster but less known SATA 3 one
(possible misbehaviors at such low level are a heck of a problem to debug)
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby ianspector » Sun May 22, 2011 4:22 pm

I am not sure that this is the right place to post this as I have only been a Synology user since Thursday. Rather that buy another two DroboPro-FS units I decided to buy an RS2211 and an RX1211. I added 10 3TG discs to the RS2211 and 2 3TB discs to the RX1211. I started copying my movies from my primary Drobo (both Drobos also have 8 3TB drives each). I saw a transfer rate of 44MB/s. As the Drobos are mirrors I started another copy to the Syn9ology from the second Drobo. Now I was writing at 90MB/s. Adding a third NAS allowed writes in excess of 105MB/s. I could not be happier. I copies around 18TB of media then tried to watch a Blu-Ray. The movie plays perfectly except every few minutes the motion pauses, then fast forwards with no sound then resumes normal play.

I can copy the same ISO image to my desktop at way over 100MB/s. I tried playing the ISO from the DroboPro-FS copy and it plays with no problems. The performance seems to be six times faster than the Drobo units yet I cannot play a movie smoothly.

I have both NICs connected to the same 16 port GB Netgear switch as the Drobos, bonded but not aggregated. My media player is a Dune HD Max. All Blu-ray content has this problem.

I would really appreciate your help.

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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby docchris » Sun May 22, 2011 7:27 pm

you'd probably be better posting in one of the support forums rather than a general hardware discussion

however.. i have 10 x 3tb disks in my rs2211 & i use them to serve blurays - and it can serve all 3 of my tv's with 3 differnet blurays, simultaneously, without any problems at all

(and with me doing other reading and writing to it at the same time)

im using xbmc to play back

could it be anything to do with the buffering settings in your player maybe?
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby DaAzrael » Mon May 23, 2011 8:22 am

I just came up with two questions (haven't seen a discussion about these two points yet).

1. I can't find an eSata port in the DS2411+ specs on the various sites. Did they really drop the eSata support (obviously because of the 3x4=12 ports) on the DS2411+? While not supporting USB3.0 at the same time, this is really a set back in comparison to older (and cheaper) products.
=> backup time to external discs x3 or x4

2. Will it be possible to expand the RAM size (to 3GB) as in the DS1511+? Or did they drop this support to point out more differences between DS2411+ and DS3611+?
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby docchris » Mon May 23, 2011 9:02 am

there is no e-sata port on any of the specs sheets or graphics i have seen - the esata port on the DS1511+ was mainly intended for plugging in the slave unit, so on the ds2411+ the infiband port replaces this.

at its heart it is still a standard pc built from standard bits, the motherboard in my RS2411+ looks IDENTICAL to the one in the ds1511+ (and one would assume will be very similar to the ds2411+) so i am fairly sure that you would be able to upgrade the ram
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby DaAzrael » Tue May 24, 2011 9:26 pm

@docchris

Yeah, I thought so. And of course, they won't have any spare sata ports when using standard 4-port sata controller.

Good to hear, so I hope it's the same mainboard and they didn't save some cents by leaving out the extra slot for the second memory bar.
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby docchris » Tue May 24, 2011 9:27 pm

well im sure they would keep it there - since they sell relatively expensive upgrades themselves!
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby DaAzrael » Wed May 25, 2011 7:44 am

maybe not enough bought the official upgrades but the standard memory bars. ;)
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby jjcrandall » Thu May 26, 2011 12:30 am

I found Synology's June 2011 product guide online, looks like the DS2411+ can be upgradeable to 3GB.
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby docchris » Thu May 26, 2011 4:47 am

have you got a link to it?
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby K1LL3M » Thu May 26, 2011 5:10 am

docchris wrote:have you got a link to it?


Synology Product Guide June 2011

Here's a question maybe someone can help explain.

Why would the DS3611xs be more power efficient than the RS3411xs, especially considering the additional 2 drives of the DS3611xs?

DS3611xs 116w/59w
RS3411xs 128w/78w
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby docchris » Thu May 26, 2011 7:01 am

i wonder if they are quoting the redundant power supply version of the RS34 (or maybe it only comes with redundant power supplies)
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Re: DS2411+, DS3611xs, DX1211, RS2211+, RS3411xs, RX1211

Postby docchris » Thu May 26, 2011 7:08 am

a better question is - why is the d2411+ quoted at 146W?! with its tiny little atom processor
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