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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby suysuy » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:33 pm

suysuy wrote:I just got my ds1010+
Looking for packages, especially the MONO package. Since it's x86 architecture, I guess it can't be a problem to create it.
But, I'm not a linux guru, and it's my first nas, so I have no clue how to do this myself.
Any Idea someone?
btw, are there other interesting package lists (preferable specific for ds1010 too) available somewhere?
I hope to find packages (like mono), that I can install just by using a package installer (like in DSM)

thx !


Still nothing on MONO ??
I saw references to MONO packages for QNAP. So, Synology, where are you with MONO?
It's perfectly possible to create the MONO package. Since I have a DS1010+ , it should certainly be of great value, and I think, performance will still be good too.... (I don't mind adding more memory, if that's needed).
Since DS1010+ is also targeted to mid-sized companies, ... MONO would be an excellent feature. I have no problem accessing MYSQL from Visual Studio. I only can't create asp.net applications to run on the ds1010. Since a lot of companies use Visual Studio, or create .net applications... it would be certainly a benefit for the DS1010.... AND, QNAP already has a MONO package...
Or, is there a way to install a QPKG (Qnap Package), on a ds1010.


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Still searching for mono in DS1010+ :(
Since the mono-project is mature enough, I guess it can't be that hard to make a package from it to install on ds1010.
DS1010+ is linux based , on i686 compatible processor...
Mono is standard available on almost every linux distro, and of course on I686 compatible processors...
So,... it must be simple to port it to ds1010+ ......
or not??? and why ??µ
It exists for QNAP... I hope i didn't make the wrong choice .....
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby elmer91 » Sat May 08, 2010 1:33 pm

GNaschenweng wrote:Squid does not work - throws the error:
FATAL: comm_select_init: epoll_create(): (38) Function not implemented


I have exactly same problem with nginx.
IPKG nginx for syno-i686 has been built with epoll support but Synology kernel has no support for it.

Would it be possible to build a nginx package with --disable-epoll ?

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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby dino » Sat May 08, 2010 2:31 pm

* install a chrooted debian environment
* install/compile apache
* compile mono from source

all working fine
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby MS_Totor » Sun May 23, 2010 7:10 pm

hi dino or bzou
have you open a blog or other discusion forum about chroot support or cross compilation for x86 ?
PS i have compiled some working kernel modules for x86, busybox 1.17 etc....
contact me via MP
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby dino » Wed May 26, 2010 6:59 am

hi MS_Totor, I've been working on a tuto to setup a chrooted debian environment on x86, but haven't got the time to finish. with the chrooted debian environment, you can even run vmware 2.0.2 (I have this running, not performing well due the lack of VT technology on the D510 cpu). Anyway, when I have some time, I'll try to finish the tuto and the scripts (full automated install scripts) and the chrooted binaries.

The chrooted environment can also run on PPC, but due the lack of support for the e500v2 cpu in debian I would not advise to do so.

To run moblock on x86, you can download the kernel modules and libraries for iptables I've posted a while ago

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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby scottlindner » Wed May 26, 2010 4:20 pm

Dino,

Not exactly related to this thread, but did you need to do anything special to get VMWare Server installed and running on the DS1010+? I want to upgrade my DS1010+ to 3GB of RAM and see how well my Ubuntu server will perform in a VM on the NAS. If I'm lucky, I can shutdown that power hog.

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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby dino » Wed May 26, 2010 4:34 pm

Hi Scott, you need to setup a chrooted debian (or any other linux environment anyway) on a x86 platform. Without, you cannot get it up and running due the lack of support of the syno linux environment. I would be happy to write very longggggggggg tuto's, but since it's a bit more complicated then just installing a ipkg package and I don't want to brick anyone's syno, this is way out of range. I could help you in setting up some stuff, but that would eat my private family time.....

If you would really need to have some additonal assistance on this topic (chrooted environment), please pm me.

Most of the stuff I post on the forum is just fun to power up the capabilities of a unix/linux environment which are endless.....

I'm using myself a home made VMware machine hosting unix/linux and windows (read: windows for my ladies at home :-))

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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby scottlindner » Wed May 26, 2010 4:42 pm

I'm not 100% sure I understand. Are you saying that I need to run another Debian machine for VM's hosted on the DS1010+ to work? If that's the case, that's pointless in my opinion.

I don't have to run the VMs on my DS1010+. If possible, I'd like to try, to see if my current Ubuntu box will run fine on it. If it does, I will be saving myself tons on the electrical bill. If it isn't reasonably possible, then I'm going to build myself am AMD Phenom II X6 based ESXi host to replace my current box and probably draw the same power anyway but get way more VMs on it.

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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby dino » Wed May 26, 2010 4:49 pm

You are right, you need to run a CHROOTED debian on the syno box (google up to understand what this means). Within the chrooted environment, you can run vmware in which you can host vm's.

Other solution is to open up your ds1010+, remove the build-in flash card, replace it with a vmware ESXi stick and host your vm's from there. This will break your warranty....

Keep in mind that the D510 cpu does not have VT technology, which means that it is pretty useless for virutalization
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby scottlindner » Thu May 27, 2010 1:44 am

dino wrote:You are right, you need to run a CHROOTED debian on the syno box (google up to understand what this means). Within the chrooted environment, you can run vmware in which you can host vm's.

Other solution is to open up your ds1010+, remove the build-in flash card, replace it with a vmware ESXi stick and host your vm's from there. This will break your warranty....

Keep in mind that the D510 cpu does not have VT technology, which means that it is pretty useless for virutalization


I got it now. I'm not into breaking the warranty, and I doubt ESXi will run on the NAS box. Even if I could get it to boot, it wouldn't support the RAID.
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby dino » Thu May 27, 2010 6:58 am

ESXi is working on a ds1010+ (I tried it), but you're right, no raid support since all syno products are using software raid
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby suysuy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:48 pm

If you need ASP (Mono), just don't buy Synology. I'm waiting already such a long time for it...
Synology just doesn't care. I guess I will sell my DS1010+.
DS1010 run linux, linux supports Mono. DS1010 has apache, wich also supports mono.
But, Synology, doesn't support Mono!! Mono is available, it's ready to prepare to run on DS1010!
But Synology just doesn't seem to care.
My next nas systems will probably be a QNAP, which also runs linux, WITH MONO!
I'm soooo disappointed in synology ...........
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby scottlindner » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:49 pm

suysuy wrote:If you need ASP (Mono), just don't buy Synology. I'm waiting already such a long time for it...
Synology just doesn't care. I guess I will sell my DS1010+.
DS1010 run linux, linux supports Mono. DS1010 has apache, wich also supports mono.
But, Synology, doesn't support Mono!! Mono is available, it's ready to prepare to run on DS1010!
But Synology just doesn't seem to care.
My next nas systems will probably be a QNAP, which also runs linux, WITH MONO!
I'm soooo disappointed in synology ...........


I may have a buyer for your used DS1010+, and in a year for your used QNAP once you realize what it doesn't have.

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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby suysuy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:17 pm

well, you think qnap is worse? From what is read in reviews, I don't think so...
Anyway, a nas is not that special. Everybody can make one. There's nothing complicated about a nas.
I just wanted to save time, have multiple disks (using raid-6), a decent performance,wol, and linux. Linux, that is free available, and has soooo many tools... So, normally, a lot of linux programs can run on the synology. Apache, nfs, php, mysql, ....
The "applications" delivered with synology are not that special. PHPadmin is als free available. Linux has mail server programs, a lot of free php pgms ....
The only thing synology did, is customize the linux distro, add some free applications and made some kind of config manager like DSM.
It's nice , but, why not looking at the competition? I don't need 5 blog systems, 4 kinds of bulletin boars,...
If it's php, I can download any pgm and install it myself or create one myself.
But, I also want to create dot.net pgms. The ONLY thing i need is mono. In stead of adding another photo station or gallery, let synology create a Mono package. Afterwards, they can create whatever they think is so important.
Qnap made available a package for mono. So, it's not that hard to do?
Another soloution would be in buying a qnap, and from time to time start the ds1010 just for backing up de qnap. That would be sad, cause, the ds1010 deserves better....
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Re: IPKG for DS1010+

Postby scottlindner » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:32 pm

suysuy wrote:well, you think qnap is worse? From what is read in reviews, I don't think so...


Another soloution would be in buying a qnap, and from time to time start the ds1010 just for backing up de qnap. That would be sad, cause, the ds1010 deserves better....


I was just about to hit the "Buy" button on a TS-659 Pro until I found grave limitations that currently have QNAP owners in a tizzy. My ultimate rationale that led me to Synology was the open support for modding, eve right on their own website.

The grass is always greener. I was serious that I might know someone to buy your Synology, and I was serious about your QNAP when you figure out what people of that community dislike.
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