Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby pz1 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:38 pm

bilil wrote:I follow the Synology documentation : http://www.synology.com/support/3rd_par ... hp?lang=us
Page 11, Compile Kernel Modules.

You have to compile kernel modules that support USB and cp210x.

For my application I compiled the following modules :
* cp210x
* ftdi_sio
* pl2303
* usbserial

Did you compile these modules from the sources of the Synology distribution (/usr/local/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/root/linux-2.6.32/drivers/usb/serial )? Or did you use a newer sour like the ones you can download from Aeon-Labs?
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby bilil » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:41 pm

I compile these modules from the sources of Synology.
I follow the synology 3rd party documentation.
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby MrMxyzptlk » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:51 pm

Excellent work! I have a Synology DS1511+ (Intel x86 Atom),and a Vera 2 ZWave router with a Aeon Labs ZStick V2 plugged in.

Can you either setup a SPK for x86 arch or do we have access to the source to complete our own compile?
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby bilil » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:01 am

Hi,

The compilation for others arch is in my todo list...but I dont know when.
The sources are not public, sorry ( maybe one day)

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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby pz1 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:57 pm

bilil wrote:I follow the Synology documentation : http://www.synology.com/support/3rd_par ... hp?lang=us
Page 11, Compile Kernel Modules.

You have to compile kernel modules that support USB and cp210x.

For my application I compiled the following modules :
* cp210x
* ftdi_sio
* pl2303
* usbserial

Well those instructions in the 3rd-party-apps document are rather flimsy. I try to do it and, at the same time describe step by step what must be done. My first attempt was on OpenSuse, but there I got stuck. I came a bit further on a similarly clean Ubuntu installation. But still not the result others claim to have reached. That is strange to say the least.

See here for my attempts. Comments here or there appreciated.
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby pz1 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:54 pm

bilil wrote:I follow the Synology documentation : http://www.synology.com/support/3rd_par ... hp?lang=us
Page 11, Compile Kernel Modules.

You have to compile kernel modules that support USB and cp210x.

For my application I compiled the following modules :
* cp210x
* ftdi_sio
* pl2303
* usbserial

Did this work for you out of the box on an unmodified machine? I have had many problems with it as decribed in my post viewtopic.php?p=199999#p199999.

Both for the DS212+ and the DS207+ I get an error message that ncurses, and /or ncurses-devel is missing. Did you get that message to? (I found at least one other person, who seemed to have that problem..
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby bilil » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:20 pm

I have to check what I have installed...I remember that I have a lot of trying to get it work!
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby SynoN00b » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:40 pm

Hi,

I'm about to automate my home and saw this topic. Can you recommend buying a DS212+ and an Aeon Z-stick S2 to control a z-wave network or is it more safe/userfriendly to go down the more expensive route with a Fibaro HC2 (and have another 24/7 box running)?

Any screenshots of Synozwave gui?

I'd prefer to have a minimum amount of boxes running and a DS212+ seems perfect if it is possible to integrate Z-wave control as well 8)
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby pz1 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:16 pm

SynoN00b wrote:Hi,

I'm about to automate my home and saw this topic.

The first thing you must decide is why you want to automate your home and what you want to automate. Next consider your budget. Than on the basis of your needs decide for the technology (Zwave, Zigbee, 1-Wire, etc.).
If you insist on Zwave, http://zwave.me is a nice free and easy starter. The controller software itself runs on the cloud. A client program is available for Windows and Apple. I am working on a client solution for DS212+ and DS207+, which is described elsewhere on this forum.
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby SynoN00b » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:43 pm

Hi pz1,

Thanks for your quick reply!

I've decided to use z-wave in my weekend house to control heating, lights and motion detection. Already have a small 1-wire net as well as a few Nexa-units (controlled by tellstick and a Bubba B3). Time and fiddliness are limiting factors as well as keeping the amount of gadgets/servers/etc to a minimum. Clean and easy.

Z-wave seems to be somewhat more reliable and easier to monitor off-site and if it is compatible with a DS212+ without fuzz it would be my first choice. A Fibaro HC2 (z-wave controller unit) is the easy way out, but adds an extra item to fiddle around with. Which in this case is bad.

Another option would be to run it on my Raspberry Pi, but let's keep to the Synology/z-wave-combination-options in this forum.

I'll look into zwave.me and see if it fits the requirements. Would you recommend it? And what about the synology-solution - feasible?
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby pz1 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:30 am

SynoN00b wrote: I'll look into zwave.me and see if it fits the requirements. Would you recommend it? And what about the synology-solution - feasible?

I would recommend zwave.me for experimenting, and learning how to control. As it is a cloud based service, I would not recommend it for a house where you do not permanently stay. They intend to produce a stand-alone Z-box sometime, but I have not seen a release date for it yet. I intend to use it for experimenting first.

My maint objective is to see if I can create 'smart' temperature control in different zones of the house. I have one Danfoss Living Connect Z-Wave radiator valve. This appears to be a rather difficult beast to tame (see discussions on Zwave.me forum). The problem imho is with Danfoss not with the software.

I started out testing on PC, but in the meantime I managed to natively compile the Z-agent client on my DS212+. The drivers for the Aeon stick were installed on the DS212+ with bilil's SynoZwave package. Ultimately I want to create two Synology .spk packages. One for the USB stick, and one for the application. I am not at all proficient in Linux. My last Unix experience was back in the '70s. So it is a culture shock. The client is now running two weeks and a half on the DS212+, and seems stable.

You can both play with bilil's SynoZwave, and Z-wave.me. Just stop the other service, to avoid conflicting commands to devices.

An alternative future option to look at is openremote.org. They can mix protocols, and have nice features for remotecontrol from phones and pads. Behind the scenes they are working on Zwave integration. openremote.org has been compiled for DS212+ as well. (I have not worked with that one yet)
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby pz1 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:43 pm

The SynoZwave links here don't seem to work anymore
edit: , and apparantly nobody else bothers
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby bilil » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:07 am

Repository : http://repo.synozwave.com
Twitter : @SynoZwave
Wiki : http://wiki.synozwave.com

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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby pz1 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:18 am

Thank you foor the update. Nice site. Good excercise for my rather rusty french with a little help of google translate
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Re: Home Automation Thread (Z-Wave)

Postby joefm1218 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:34 am

Has anyone been able to run OpenRemote in conjunction with the Aeon ZWave USB stick? I managed to compile the necessary kernel modules and have the cp2102 (USB/Serial) driver installed against the Aeon, but can't seem to get OpenRemote to produce debug output for ZWave following:

http://www.openremote.org/display/docs/ ... o+-+Z-Wave

Anyone manage to get to the finish line? (I'm using a 212+).
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