xcopy wrote:I'm really sick of dealing with these F4 drives.
xed wrote:I purchased the Synology DS1511+ with five Samsung Spinpoint F4 2.0TB each. They were all dated 2011-01 so they were practically right off the shelf. Did not bother doing any firmware upgrade on them and have been testing the S.M.A.R.T. features regularly without issue.
So far I am pretty happy with the performance, although I suspect that I would have been happy with the WD EARS or Hitachi drives as well. At this point, I believe my old Intel 2.4GHz Dual-core E6600 is the bottleneck in terms of network I/O. WIth a D-Link 1Gbps hub and 1Gbps card on the PC, I can squeeze roughly 70-75Mb/sec maximum and that is with 4K jumbo packets both configured on the NAS and with my PC network card.
Townie wrote:xcopy, whilst I don't doubt that you have had problems I can't help but think you've been unlucky or there is a compatibility issue with your dock. The data corruption issue is fixed by the firmware update, that's a fact. The guys at smartmon tools. who confirmed it had a problem also confirm it is fixed here. (While also backhandedly slapping them for not updating the firmware rev. no. in the process)
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartm ... GBadBlocks
The fact that many people haven't had any problems with these drives also confirm it's not a design flaw. The long term reliabilty of these drives can only be determined over a longer period, they haven't been out long enough for that data to be collated yet.
You have had so many problem drives I cannot help but think there are other issues. I have had many drives die prematurely but not at the rate you are experiencing which is staggeringly high.
Is there a compatibility issue with the Advace Format Technology patition alignment and Windows formatting them properly?
Samsung Advanced Technology patition alignment tool for Windows 7 and Vista is here along with estool.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/ ... n_aft.html
Do you have the latest driver for your Intel Chipset as referenced here.
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/i ... 031502.htm
Format the drives using estool and then try them on a mainboard SATA port and see how they behave
Only by eliminating all other possibilities can you definitively say that the hard drives are at fault.
Everyone has an opinon about HDD's and all manufacturers will be on someone's "Don't touch with a bargepole" list due to a personal experience. If I held that opinion about every hard drive that had died prematurely there would be none left for me to buy.
My own opinion is that all HDD's seem to be getting more unreliable but no one manufacturer stands out as being either great or bad.
soixante4 wrote:To all,
I sucessfullly managed to have my 2*Samsung HD204UI 2To recognized in my DS211j, without patching the disks because they are dated 12/2010.
Here is a summary of tips and tricks I got from nbaner (thanks mate!) and some others, with web links that works
1. Don't install the (unpatched) Samsung HD204UI on DS211 and power on/perform smart test!
2. IF FAB DATE OF HDD is >=12/2010 go to number 4! Made boot CD with Samsung patch using the .iso file made by HarryPotter, found in this thread on page 11: http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=27905&start=150 Source fom Samsung (useless when using iso : http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/faqView.do?b2b_bbs_msg_id=386)
3.Disconnect computer hard drive and connected the first Samsung hard drive, boot computer with above CD, apply patch, power off computer, and then repeat for second Samsung hard drive
(Note: While applying the patch once you see the successful message, you need to directly switch off PC from socket and not use any traditional shutdown method)
mark wrote:@xcopy: I have 5 F4EGs running 24/7 in JBOD (manufactured aug/2010). I have not experienced any problems thus far, but I keep an eye on them.
You say you will switch over to HItachi 2TB drive (model 5k3000) but I do not see them on the compatibility list for
the DS509+ which I have. Are they really on the Synology compatibility list?
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