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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:04 pm

jokemeister wrote:Re SABnzbd CPU usage, while downloading I find that the CPU usage isn't that high but as I stated earlier I dont have the bandwidth to push the DS. To check if it's really SABnzbd, can you perhaps go to the resource monitor and then click on the CPU chart to bring up a detailed CPU usage monitoring window which shows what processes and percentages are using CPU and report them back here for others so we get an idea of what limitations to expect. This will help others when deciding which model DS to purchase based on their expected usage requirements. BTW, a 212J is pretty bottom end when it comes to CPU's. The 212+ has a much higher CPU clock rate.


I'll be glad to do that, but I can't seem to find the screen youre talking about, where it shows process-for-process what CPU usage there is? I can only find a screen that shows the TOTAL, COMBINED, use of RAM and CPU?
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:33 pm

Ah, I found the screen! I'll try it with a few torrents in SAB when I get home and post the info.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby jokemeister » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:22 am

SAB doesn't download torrents. It's a Usenet client to download NZB's. I know, I know, I'm being pedantic but plenty of newbies on these forums so just adding clarity.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:44 am

Ah, a typo on my part, I meant nzb-files ofcourse! I'll go ahead and get data from running SAB running 1, 3, and 5 NZB downloads at the same time now. It'll be interesting to see if SAB really takes up that much CPU, or if its something else... Stay tuned...

EDIT: Hold on, I seem to have forgotten the password I set for SAB, so I'm now reinstalling the package, but as soon as thats ready I'll turn off as many services as possible an run a NZB to check cpu usage.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:14 am

BTW, CPU and RAM usage is almost non-existent when downloading FROM the NAS locally at high speeds.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby fender4645 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:31 am

Most likely you'll see python coming close to pegging the CPU and RAM while downloading and unrar when unpacking.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:08 am

fender4645 wrote:Most likely you'll see python coming close to pegging the CPU and RAM while downloading and unrar when unpacking.


Yes, thats exactly whats happened (though I only downloaded now, no unraring or post-processing). Here is the results (hope this image-script from imageshack.us works...):

[img=http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1329/speedqe.th.jpg]
[img=http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6241/cpuusage.th.jpg]

You can see in the first picture that the speed was only around 5mb/sec. And the second picture shows the CPU usage, with Python showing above 90% (I guess thats because SAB runs on Python). And this was ONLY during download from SABnzbd, no other local transfers or stresses on HDDs or anything.

Any ideas how to fix this?
I'd really like to be able to download nzb's faster than from the DSM-incuded Download Station (which is around 10mb/sec max)
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:05 am

URGENT!

After uninstalling and reinstalling SABnzb, I cannot find the SAB folders anywhere! Last time they were located in Volume1 root, but now i can't find them ANYWHERE on the NAS! The web GUI tells me files have been downloaded to " /var/packages/sab2/target/sab/Downloads/complete/REQ_John_Irvin_Tinker_Tailor_Soldier_Spy_1979_DVDR_PAL_3DiSC_D1_DVD9_TTSS_D1 ", but, uh, where in gods name is that located? I must also point out that I was unable to start the SABnzb Helper that came with merty's package (i'm not the only one having problems with starting the helper I've read), though I set up SAB as best I could in the online GUI's "Config".

Help, I want to know where my downloaded files are!

Any help appreciated.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:12 am

In the SABnzb wiki there's a specific question "Where is my files?". The answer in the wiki is "Downloads: OSX/Linux: ~/downloads/complete" and for the Settings and Log files "~/.sabnzbd/sabnzbd.ini" and "~/.sabnzbd/logs" respectively, but I have NO sabnzbd folder ANYWHERE on the DS212j from what I can see. Is the SABnzbd Helper REQUIRED to be run before you use SAB? I.e. is the Helper actually the program creating the folders? Seems far-fetched... Luckily I've only downloaded some 22GB of data in SAB after the reinstall (22gb of files which I cannot find on my nas, even when the browser GUI shows them as downloaded), so its a relatively small amount of data, and I can redownload it with another program.

I still can't start the SAB Helper from merty's site. Maby a reinstall of SABnzbd and waiting untill I can actually access the Helper BEFORE I download anything should fix it?

EDIT: The web interface shows that there is "3761.69GB free" where the nzb's are downloading (or at least where the "complete" folder is located), and that tells me the files must be on "volume1" of the NAS, since the other volume is a much smaller 1TB volume, and my two connected USB drives are 2TB each. Can the SAB folders be HIDDEN somewhere on volume1? If so, how do I get access to them? I'm logged in as admin, so I should be able to view all folders and files in the File Station, right?

Any ideas please? Where is my files?

Desperately yours,
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby jokemeister » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:18 am

If you go into the SABnzbd web GUI and click on the completed file you'll get a dialog that gives you the files specifics including the location.

Also, in SABnzbd web GUI, click on Config -> Folders and define where the temp and complete folders are to be. The helper does allow you to configure the share and path but I get the impression it's a setup for newbies so they dont have to get their hands dirty with the full config options.

I'm thinking though that you need to define the above folders before downloading and ensure you assign user privileges to those folders so you can access them.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:46 am

jokemeister wrote:If you go into the SABnzbd web GUI and click on the completed file you'll get a dialog that gives you the files specifics including the location.

I'm thinking though that you need to define the above folders before downloading and ensure you assign user privileges to those folders so you can access them.


Yeah, but what about the files I've already downloaded? If i click on them in the web GUI the path comes up as "/var/packages/sab2/target/sab/Downloads/complete/". Where the *forbidden word* is the "/var/"-folder located? Its no biggie if i dont find the files i've downloaded, as it was just a couple of dozens GBs, but it would be fun to know where they actually are?

I've specified folders now, and trying a new nzb, I hope it'll work.

Thank you for your help!
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:30 am

Nope,

Still no success. Now the file I downloaded is, according to the web interface, located at path:
"/var/packages/sab2/target/sab/volume1/Volym 1/SABnzbd/Downloads/complete/Irreversible_LIMITED_DVDRip_XviD_QiX", and I can't see no SABnzbd-folder on Volym 1 (which is the main volume on the NAS, and even mapped as a network drive to Windows Explorer). So the file is, like the others, mysteriously gone. Question is, WHERE is "/var/packages/sab2/target/sab" located? I'm sooo frustrated by this.

If I could only get SABnzbd Helper running, maby that would help...

Anyone know what to do? Please!

EDIT: I uninstalled SAB and tried to install Superzebulon's version (an up-to-date version, specifically for my CPU, wheras mertymade's package of SAB seems to be 1) not CPU-specific, and 2) an older version), but that required a higher version of python, and when i tried to install that, also specifically for my CPU, it installed but i got an error when I tried to start the service. Too bad. So now I'm back to mertymade's packages, I just wanna get the SABnzbd Helper going, like it did the first time i installed mertymade's packages, 'cause then I was able to config SAB correctly.

I was thinking also that the reason SABnzbd gives me such high CPU values might be because mertymade's version is NON-cpu-specific. I think I'll google around a bit and scan the SABnzbd forums for a version of SABnzbd specifically for my CPU, and thats able to run on the existing python package I have. I don't mind if it results in a lower version of SAB. Just my two cents...
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby jokemeister » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:29 am

I can't recall exactly but I'm getting some memory of having to run Merty's SAB helper before running the GUI. Anyway, you can Telnet into the DS and go to those folders to move them out to a shared folder.

Re Zeb's python package, I do recall a note on his website indicating that it doesn't actually get run like most apps. If I understand it correctly, it's a resource that gets called on by other apps like the SABnzbd from Superzebulon.

Anyway, once you've done the telnet thing, maybe uninstall Merty's SAB and reinstall but set up the folders first.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:05 am

Apparently, i'm not the only one that get higher speeds in DSM's own download station than in SABnzbd. Check this link (and scroll down to "Downloading": http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/optimize_your_synology_for_downloading/

EDIT4; really, read through the link above, its useful info on how to get the best dl speeds out of your NAS. According to that blog, SABnzbd DOES take up more and more PCU and memory the higher download rate you go. He has the same problem as me.

EDIT1: Theres also a new version of SAB out, that can be downloaded from the official page. that claims it should run anywhere where python is installed. Mwby I'll try to install that and set it up.

I still dont get why some packages are specifically made for a respective CPU snd some packages (like marty's) is all-in-one. I mean there should be SOMETHING to gain by installing a package streamlined for your own CPU, right? Maby like, things like...memory and cpu usage? :)

EDIT2: I finally got the Helper running, when I installed and tried out google Chrome browser. Saying what you will about the Helper, its helpful setting the folders where you can actually see them :

So now i might try out merty's SAB for a while, then try to upload to the new version from the official page. Or find an updated version specifically for my CPU, or marvell kirkwood CPU's in general even, that can run on the python package I already have installed and doesn't complain about it.

EDIT AGAIN (3):
Ah, here's the info concerning the error msg when trying to install the latest python release:
http://synoblog.superzebulon.org/2011/09/python-2-6-6-4-spk/
I just might upgrade to that, and install the SAB version for my CPU anyway, disregarding the error msg when you try to start superzebulon's python, and let it be "offline", as I understand it have to be...

I'll post here if I get any better speeds and/or smaller CPU usage when SAB is downloading when I've tried different versions of python and SABnzbd.
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Re: SABnzbd

Postby piccioni » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:16 pm

I found another source for the new Python, though I'm not sure if it supports Synology NAS:es, it can be downloaded here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59715798/Python26-x86-2.6.6-5.spk. Its the same version as on Superzebulon's site, but the name only specifies it as for "x86" CPUs, no specifics. Maby I'll try THAT one too. Talk about it in (i think) some netherlandish language (I can't understand any of it), can be found here: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1489703/19.

I can't believe SABnzbd only supports NZBMatrix and Newzbin! That feature really should be customable. I registered at NZBMatrix just to see what kind of site it was, and it seemed much like a [Please control your language] sign-up torrent site (?) more than a usenet site. I found nothing there I wanted, and the site seems monitored with just a select few DVDs (for instance) showable. Newzbin is a bit more unregulated, but the posts is often divided up to two or three different posts (i.e. the PAR2 files is often posted in a separate post etc). They both really sucks IMO. I'm praising the dark forces (I'm a follwer of Aleister Crowley, a.k.a. "The Wickedest Man In The World") that I found nzbclub.com. No usenet index site can match that one.

EDIT: Another thing I don't like about SABnzbd is that in the config options you can choose renaming of files and folders, but only "Replace spaces with underscores" and "Replace dots with spaces". I come from the so-called "scene-world", so I automatically love my dots. I want "Replace underscores and spaces WITH dots". Is it hard to write a script that automatically renames the folders according to my wishes after download is complete? Maby that would be my first-ever attempt at writing my own script... Though I have no idea how. Where do I go to learn it, if there are tutorials somewhere? I can't believe people's love for underscores...
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