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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby Guess Who » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:45 pm

If it's single core, why should I choose 712+ instead of DS411+II?
I am one of the many who are waiting for the DS 712+.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby hypertonik » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:30 pm

Maybe because it would be cheaper?

Or maybe because it shall allow expansion of the volume onto DX510 (unlike DS411+II, which can only create a separate one in there)?
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby fabtech » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:02 pm

It looks like that the DS712+ Data Sheet is only a marketing tool with little tech data on it. I am sure that Synology knows that small businesses are waiting for a sturdy, fast and better-than-its-predecessors. Is this DS a replacement for small-to-medium-size businesses?

If so, there are a number of features that people, in general, are waiting for, starting from a faster CPU (Atom 1.8GHz dual-core?), floating-point, fast read+write, the possibility to an upgradeable memory, a much improved air flow, an energy efficient system, scalable, and with enough external ports to plug-in external devices. I am looking forward to reading some tech reviews of this device very soon.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby cfuttrup » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:00 pm

Hi fabtech

It seems that the DS712+ will fulfill your line of requirements. The only thing in question is dual-core or not ... but, what do we need it for? Standard answer "it is faster" - or "it is more energy efficient" - but if a single-core can do it? I don't see dual-core as being something directly specifying desired performance - it only specifies a CPU architecture.

BTW, one thing I was hoping for (but not requiring) is an USB 3.0 port. Disks are so large these days, accessing with USB 2.0 can take a long time. I realize we have eSata interface and it is better - how about Synology sell component for connecting disk to eSata? ... but at any rate I think USB 3.0 will be more universally available. I already have an USB 3.0 external disk (IcyBox).

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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby hypertonik » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:06 am

cfuttrup wrote:It seems that the DS712+ will fulfill your line of requirements. The only thing in question is dual-core or not ... but, what do we need it for? Standard answer "it is faster" - or "it is more energy efficient" - but if a single-core can do it? I don't see dual-core as being something directly specifying desired performance - it only specifies a CPU architecture.


Dual cores can help with heavy multitasking - the RAID controller is a software one, after all.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby 4eyes » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:33 pm

cfuttrup wrote:Hi fabtech

It seems that the DS712+ will fulfill your line of requirements. The only thing in question is dual-core or not ... but, what do we need it for? Standard answer "it is faster" - or "it is more energy efficient" - but if a single-core can do it? I don't see dual-core as being something directly specifying desired performance - it only specifies a CPU architecture.

BTW, one thing I was hoping for (but not requiring) is an USB 3.0 port. Disks are so large these days, accessing with USB 2.0 can take a long time. I realize we have eSata interface and it is better - how about Synology sell component for connecting disk to eSata? ... but at any rate I think USB 3.0 will be more universally available. I already have an USB 3.0 external disk (IcyBox).

/Claus


Already migrated my DS207+ to DS712+ and totally agree with Claus comment. All application response and speed is fast even it is D425 single core. From the DSM 3.1 comes from the box the Photo Station generates thumb nail at around 15sec for a 600 megapixel photo. Moreover, wordpress speed is fast like using PC base Apache. The only pity thing is USB port is still 2.0.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby 4eyes » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:15 pm

One new finding that DS712+ does not have DSM 3.2 support yet nor even Synology does not update it's web site of such new member.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby hypertonik » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:49 am

4eyes wrote:One new finding that DS712+ does not have DSM 3.2 support yet nor even Synology does not update it's web site of such new member.


Maybe because the device is not announced yet?
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby Guess Who » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:51 am

A fast processor and much (fast) memory is what I want( if not too expesive :? ).
Why? I have many different devices in my home like smartphones, WM7, Android 2.3, Honeycomb tablet, ipad 2, pc, laptops, mediaplayers, internet tv. Now in most case the coding has to be don by the device. I'm sure Synology is trying to make something so the videocoding(rendering) can be done on the Synology. If that's the case, then I see this on as an investment because you need the "power".
Besides that, my whole family is streamning from it, video and music.
So I hope the big news comes soon.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby 4eyes » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:51 am

hypertonik wrote:
4eyes wrote:One new finding that DS712+ does not have DSM 3.2 support yet nor even Synology does not update it's web site of such new member.


Maybe because the device is not announced yet?

Probably. I just wonder the model has been shown in NZ and Au for more than 2 weeks and soon I learned from TW and HK friends that the model is available now in their countries. Perhaps this time Synology marketing guys are not ready enough to release the ad before the product launch. :D
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby pz1 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:31 am

4eyes wrote:Perhaps this time Synology marketing guys are not ready enough to release the ad before the product launch. :D

On their site they should change the menu item "News & Reviews" into "Confirmation of Rumours" :mrgreen:
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby timgilesuk » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:36 pm

If it helps, it is due in Swedish online retailers in 2 weeks time. http://www.indomo.se Confirmed today
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby skyeo » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:13 am

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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby 4eyes » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:58 pm

skyeo wrote:http://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=DS712%2B&lang=enu#p_submenu


Seems it is just a semi-finish work. All photos are missing and even DSM 3.2 download is also absent. Have already sent an email to Synology Marketing to urge updating those information and download source.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby Guess Who » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:24 am

Yes, just a few days. Retailers in NL expect arrival Wednesday 12-10!
Anyone more info about the processor? Single or dual? One big + is the 1GB DDR3
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