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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby pz1 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:34 pm

hypertonik wrote:
pz1 wrote:As I said the 212+ is 2 GHz


It's not an Atom, so the comparison of the rates is not valid.


The type of processor is irrelevant. At least that is what Synology and many "flamers" have told me here when I complained that Synology always refuses to publish the type of processor in their official specifications for new machines.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby LosOutlandos » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:52 pm

pz1 wrote:
hypertonik wrote:
pz1 wrote:As I said the 212+ is 2 GHz


It's not an Atom, so the comparison of the rates is not valid.


The type of processor is irrelevant. At least that is what Synology and many "flamers" have told me here when I complained that Synology always refuses to publish the type of processor in their official specifications for new machines.


Then you were told wrong, have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby horizons » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:36 am

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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby hypertonik » Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:46 am

horizons wrote:the 712+ has a Intel Atom D425
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_ ... 510,1.html


Yes, and the 212+ does not, so the performance difference is not caused by the CPU rate.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby pz1 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:23 am

hypertonik wrote:
horizons wrote:the 712+ has a Intel Atom D425
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_ ... 510,1.html


Yes, and the 212+ does not, so the performance difference is not caused by the CPU rate.


And that is why Synology should grow up and finally publish the CPU type in their specifications :evil:
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby Guess Who » Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:49 pm

And that is why Synology should grow up and finally publish the CPU type in their specifications

It is :?: : http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index.ph ... y_NAS_have
But it is not fast.
Have 2 questions:
1: which cpu is in 212+?
2: is mem SO dimm module?

Anyone more news on the DS 212+ to compare?
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby pz1 » Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:03 pm



It is NOT! The WIKI is user maintained, not by Synology. It is also not an official publication of Synology. You are excused besause you are a new user, but many before you have given this same false information.


SYNOLOGY bluntly refuses to publish the type of processor on official specifications(see e.g. here) because they consider it not important for users!
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby hypertonik » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:26 am

Oh my, this senseless discussion starts again... I don't have any reason to disbelieve the info from the wiki so I'm over and out.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby pz1 » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:06 am

hypertonik wrote:Oh my, this senseless discussion starts again... I don't have any reason to disbelieve the info from the wiki so I'm over and out.


The crucial point for me is that if I make a contract with my customers, that I am required to provide a faithful specification sheet of the product that I deliever to my contracts. instead of sending people to a number of websites to find out for themselves. It is just a matter of quality of services that matters for me. If you and others think that is senseless, fine. I do business as I choose.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby Guess Who » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:39 pm

You are excused because you are a new user

pz1 you are really too kind! Thank you very much....... do you want to talk about it?

Discussion? Didn't know this was/is a discussion. The Wiki(and other) are showed under the Synology domain. Synology also says: Official Resources. The wiki is fine for me. I have no doubts the information is correct.

pz1, I also understand your point of view. I agree on the fact that it should be no problem to communicate de type of processor from day 1. It's not a secret and it's a kind of "old fashioned" to say what customers need to know and not. Maybe the will publish it in the future. I'm sure they read this. So Synology, why not in 2011?
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby enigmas » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:57 pm

For me is important to know the processor of the NAS product, I have some applications that doesn't support ppc, arm or any other processors different than x86, so based on that I can decide what kind of product to choose.

As per information from various sites and not Synology officials I can't be 100% that the information is accurate, EX: "Synology DiskStation DS712+, which is powered by an Intel Atom D425 dual-core processor", as per my knowledge and Intel confirmation D425 CPU is single core, dual thread (Intel's HT).

So I'm hopping that Synology officials can disclose their type of CPU.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby LosOutlandos » Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:04 pm

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/synology_diskstation_ds712_and_dx510,4.html

Here is a review that takes the DS712+ apart, revealing a D425 chip.
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby cfuttrup » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:46 pm

LosOutlandos wrote:http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/synology_diskstation_ds712_and_dx510,4.html

Here is a review that takes the DS712+ apart, revealing a D425 chip.


Hi LosOutlandos (Do you know about the music group named "Outlandish" ... :D )

Thanks for the link to the review.

/Claus

P.S. Why is the QNAP TS-659 Pro II faster on huge 6 GB ISO-file ... is it not using ext4? Anybody who knows the reason ... all other performance parameteres the DiskStations are OK. ANSWER: Link Aggregation ... duh!
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Re: Successor to DS710+?

Postby 4eyes » Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:50 am

LosOutlandos wrote:http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/synology_diskstation_ds712_and_dx510,4.html

Here is a review that takes the DS712+ apart, revealing a D425 chip.


Does anyone know that DSM3.2 or later can support hyper-thread in application acceleration? If the Linux kernal supports it I guess Synology engineers can optimize the system performance as well.
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