1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby tron » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:26 am

Hi itari,

A large joy is it to see that there is someone,
which helps me somewhat. So that I can give
the information. Which to be needed. Thank you.

big thx.

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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby shade73a » Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:28 am

Hi.
Could someone please put wdidle3.exe on rapidshare?
WD support claims there is no such utility available.

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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby doktor.notor » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:07 am

shade73a wrote:Hi.
Could someone please put wdidle3.exe on rapidshare?
WD support claims there is no such utility available.

Br Fredrik


I'd suggest you should send an email to their manager pointing out their incompetence... :x wdidle3 download
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby shade73a » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:47 am

Thanks alot.
Yeah i might do that depending on their next step.

/Br Fredrik
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby shade73a » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:00 pm

Hi.
Now i changed my head parkings. Again thanks to doktor.notor and no thanks to WD-support.
To save time for others i share my steps.

1.Download from freedos.org (fdfullcd.iso (153MB))
Then i used burner program k3b.

Then find an cdrw disk, in my case an old cdrw with "RedHat 7.1" (will not touch tah again) :lol:
2.burn the file as cd-iso,select (multisession).
3.then burn datacd, put wdidle3.exe on same disk (multisession)
Then connect your drive/s to whatever hardware that suites your needs, and boot from the cd. ( I have a pc with cdrom/dvdrom and sata connectors )
When in freedos. Change drive to X: and run the wdidle3.exe with your parameters and your done.

Anyone remember how to use dos/msucks? Anyway you simply type "X:" to get there....
Hope this helps other, if my guidance seem messy, blame, bag in box....
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby Patriek » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:06 am

it's been remarkably silent around this issue here, opposed to the last months
either it means the problems are gone, or people gave up on bitching Synology?

anyways, I'm glad to report that my WD EACS 1TB drive is giving a normal Load Cycle Count of 4 per hour on average
never checked on hibernation though, but I dont think it will save me alot of energy anyways, as the disk is mostly active... about 15 hrs a day

for others who do have problems: good luck
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby shade73a » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:48 am

I think your are correct on that part.
I never had any trouble with hibernation, besides those that were before and are still. (syslog/mail processes wakes the DS up from time to time)
{ And another personal issue id like resolved. I moved squeezcenter to a usb-stick and keep my music on external harddrive.
Then the only issue left is perl process loading albumart on each track change. }

After firing off the wdidle3.exe my load cycles are very acceptable.

I'd say its two diffrent issues, where load cycles is WD's problem.
And hibernation is Synologys.

And for me the first is resolved, and no thanks to WD.

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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby Jonny » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:13 pm

shade73a wrote:
And for me the first is resolved, and no thanks to WD.

Br Fredrik


Which is great for you but for us mac users we have no solution. I think i will be looking elsewhere for my products next time and not to synology.
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby doktor.notor » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:33 pm

Jonny wrote:Which is great for you but for us mac users we have no solution. I think i will be looking elsewhere for my products next time and not to synology.


Yeah, then don't forget to look for products that are Windows-based and good luck with that. Because this issue has zero in common with Synology and everything to do with WD who have broken Linux compatibility in their sucky firmware and never bothered to produce any utility for anything but x86 platform.
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby shade73a » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:58 pm

Im sure you know someone with x86 hardware, bring your disk/s.
Better safe than sorry, and no bitching will help you there.
I had to take my DS apart and put togheter an old x86-computer and create the cdrom as i described above.
3 steps while you have to make 4.

As a linux user i often lack support for hardware and in the past missing software. Nothing strange when not going with the main-stream.
But i never blamed anyone but myself for not doing better research before buy.
Here i have to blame myself and WD.

/Fredrik
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby Jonny » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:50 pm

doktor.notor wrote:
Jonny wrote:Which is great for you but for us mac users we have no solution. I think i will be looking elsewhere for my products next time and not to synology.


Yeah, then don't forget to look for products that are Windows-based and good luck with that. Because this issue has zero in common with Synology and everything to do with WD who have broken Linux compatibility in their sucky firmware and never bothered to produce any utility for anything but x86 platform.


I understand what you are saying but i feel let down by Synology. THEY listed the drives as compatible on THIER website and i bought them on THEIR advice. That is why i am pissed at synology.
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby Robster » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:57 pm

I am afraid I have to 100% support Jonny

While maybe the problem is with Western Digital in the design if it is a KNOWN PROBLEM and IT IS, then why are these drives still listed as being compatible?

There is a significant issue which can and will reduce the service life of these drives if not stuck in a PC first (which I don't own) and do some low level work on them (which I cannot).

At absolute minimum Synology should be calling out the issue on the compatibility list, not ignoring it and telling people that if they do not have access to a PC they should not buy and fit these drives.

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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby Jonny » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:11 pm

OK Guys, i have a thought.

My Macbook pro is dual boot with Windows XP.

Can i boot into XP and connect the drives to my computer by a SATA to USB adapter cable? Can i then run the wdidle3 utility to change the settings on the drive?

Can the wdidle utility just be run on XP or do i need to do something else?
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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby Robster » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:28 pm

Yes.

I have been thinking along the same lines.

Herons DOS Boot CD is ALMOST what we want and WONDER OF WONDERS WILL boot a MacBook Pro into DOS.

What a horrible thought!

I also have a special USB docking station that takes 2.5 and 3.5 disk drives.

So far all good.

Now the bad news.

I have no idea how to get the wdidl3.exe available to me when booted thus and also have no idea how to 'attach' the USB dock to DOS.

I feel a solution almost within my grasp BUT not quite.

Any help out there would be most appreciated!

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Re: 1TB disks: hibernation & load cycles

Postby Jonny » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:26 pm

Robin,

Try this:

Download DOSbox from http://www.dosbox.com/ and place in in your aps folder

Create a folder in your home directory and call it dosbox

put the wdidle3.exe in the dosbox folder

start up the DOSbox app

Type in mount c ~/dosbox and hit enter

type in c: and hit enter

type in wdidle3.exe and hit enter


that gets the app running under OS X but as i don't yet have a usb to sata adapter i don't know if it will detect the drives. Can you try it and see what happens?
There is a forum on the download site for DOSbox that may help you with the USB side of things.
I have this running and i have managed to mount a usb drive but it isn't a WD one. Can you try it?

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